T42 mit Bluetooth Problem

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[T42 mit Bluetooth und XP SP3]

Hallo liebe Leute,

ich habe nun einige Beiträge im Forum studiert, insbesondere Bluetooth headset mit dem T42p verbinden - wie?, doch leider komme ich auf keinen grünen Zweig.

Ich habe mir vor kurzem ein Bluetooth Headset zugelegt und dieses wird auch brav erkannt, doch kann ich es nicht über Skype als Audiogerät benutzen.

Ich habe nun gelesen, dass man dazu die Bluetooth Software deinstallieren, BT Treiber, insbesondere den Microsoft Treiber im Gerätemanager löschen muss, BT am Notebook ausschalten, Windows neustarten und die BT Software neuinstallieren muss.

Leider kommt der MS Treiber immer wieder neu. Bei den Bluetooth-Funkgeräten wird im Gerätemanager sowohl der "IBM Integrated Bluetooth III", als auch der "Microsoft Bluetooth-Auflistung" als Treiber geführt.

Kann ich da was machen?

Vielen lieben Dank!
Hans
 
keiner? :(



Anmerkung: Die "Bluetooth-Umgebung" ist installiert, lässt sich allerdings nicht ausführen. Mittlerweile habe ich zwei BT Symbole in der Taskleiste. Das "alte" Blau-weiße und ein "neues" Blau-rotes, welches sich nicht öffnen lässt (Bluetooth-Umgebung?)
 
Unter den folgenden beiden Links habe ich eine Lösung gefunden:

http://blog.zettl.at/KIZ/Zettls_Blog.nsf/d6plinks/WZEL-6MYL9E
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=10822


kurz zusammengefasst, hat es bei mir so funktioniert, dass ich den MS BT Treiber im Gerätemanager deaktiviert habe, anstatt ihn zu löschen (BT war an über Fn+F5).

Sofort darauf habe ich beim IBM Treiber des Gerätemanagers den Punkt "Treiber aktualisieren" ausgewählt und aus der Liste den unsignierten BT III Treiber ausgewählt.

Nach einer etwas ausgedehnteren Installation konnte ich plötzlich die mir gänzlich unbekannte BT Umgebung vor mir sehen und auch das Headset nach einer Koppelung in Skype und anderen VOIP Programmen als Audiogerät auswählen.



es folgen die wörtlichen Zitate für diejenigen Verzweifelten in der Zukunft, die das Pech haben, dass die obigen Links, nicht mehr funktionieren:



Bei etlichen Bluetooth- Headsets kommt es zu Problemen, wenn man versucht, sie mit SKYPE oder ähnlichen Voice Over IP- Clients zu verwenden. Einige WIDCOMM- Treiber verweigern zum Beispiel standhaft die Zusammenarbeit! Schuld daran ist in vielen Fällen der Bluetooth- Standardtreiber von Microsoft, der bis heute immer noch das "Headset- Profil" nicht unterstützt und jedem anderen Bluetooth- Treiber darüberhinaus keine Chance lässt. Selbst das Deinstallieren dieses Treibers im Gerätemanager nützt nichts, da er sich beim Neuerkennen eines Bluetooth- Devices sofort wieder erneut installiert!
Ein eindeutiges Indiz für ein solches Problem ist es, wenn man rechts unten in der Taskleiste zwei Bluetooth- Icons vorfindet, ein weisses und ein permanent rotes. Aber Hilfe ist nahe!






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Anstelle den "renitenten" MS-Bluetooth-Treiber zu deinstallieren, muss man ihn einfach deaktivieren! Das macht man über "Start" > "Einstellungen" > "Systemsteuerung" > "System" > "Hardware" > "Gerätemanager" unter "Bluetooth devices". Dort sind in einem solchen Fall zumeist zwei Bluetooth Treiber zu finden - einer von Microsoft und ein "Generischer", "CSR" (oder anderer) Treiber. Ein Rechtsklick auf den Microsoft-Treiber bietet die Möglichkeit, ihn zu dekativieren - also los!

Allerdings war das erst das halbe Vergnügen, nun muss der verbleibende "generische Treiber" noch aktualisiert werden! Also: rechte Maustaste drauf > "Treiber aktualisieren" > "dieses Mal nicht suchen" > "Software von einer Liste installieren" > "zu installierenden Treiber selbst wählen" und dann auf das richtige *.inf- File auf der Installations-Cd oder sonstwo zeigen (in meinem Fall "btwusb.inf"). Danach ist hoffentlich nur mehr ein Bluetooth- Symbol in der Taskleiste übrig, das nicht rot ist!

Und nun viel Vergnügen mit dem endlich kabellosen SKYPE!



have bought a Logitech Bluetooth Headset Pro (HS01) and an X-Micro Bluetooth dongle for my PC - AND IT WORKS GREAT!
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Getting there was however quite troublesome with a lot of "trial and error", but once you know the tricks, it takes less than ½ hour to set it up, so I would like to share my experiences with you. This is how to go ahead under XP SP2 (at your own risk):

1) Buy a Bluetooth version 1.1 or version 1.2 dongle with Class 1 reach ("up to 100 meters"). The brand of the dongle is not important (as long as it is not Sony Vaio!), but it is very important to check the specs of the dongle to make sure it supports "headset" services. You should go for Bluetooth version 1.2 if possible, as it has better headset support and is less susceptible to WLAN interference.
My dongle uses the Widcomm drivers and as far as I know, all Widcom drivers from version 1.4.2.10 and up support headsets. Alternative drivers are from BlueSoleil, but I don't know much about them (search the Forum for tips on BlueSoleil!).

2) Download latest drivers for the dongle from the producers' website (if avaliable).

3) Make an XP back-up point (just to be sure).

4) Install the dongle using the latest drivers for your dongle according to the manual and then reboot. In most cases, Bluetooth is NOT working correctly now - the Widcomm Bluetooth "B" icon in the system tray (lower right of your screen) is red. You might also see a white and light blue "B" icon, but that is the Microsoft Bluetooth (bad!).
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This is how your Bluetooth icon should look when you have completed the steps below - compare with the MS Bluetooth icon:
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This is the Microsoft Bluetooth icon - follow the steps below to disable.
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The Widcomm Bluetooth icon is red when the Widcomm driver needs a manual update (follow the steps below).

Added note September 2005: Many Bluetooth dongle producers are now aware of the troubles with Microsoft drivers and have added functions in the drivers that do automatically disable the MS BT drivers, so you might be lucky that everything works fine (white non-MS BT icon) right after installing the drivers. If not continue to the next step!

5) Go through "Start" > "Settings" > "Control Panel" > "System" > "Hardware" > "Device manager" and then expand "Bluetooth devices". You will most probably see two different Bluetooth drivers - one from Microsoft and a "Generic" or "CSR" (or other) driver.

6) Disable the Microsoft driver - DO NOT remove! This is the problem with XP SP2 - Microsoft Bluetooth drivers will allways be installed and will override Widcomm drivers, but they have no support for headsets! If you remove the driver, it will reinstall again if/when the dongle is reconnected, so do only disable. Hopefully one day soon MS drivers will support and work with headsets and the Bluetooth headsets will finally just be "plug and play"...
An ALTERNATIVE step 6 (more complicated but technically better) is posted by Kevoh92 in this thread: <A href="http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=14646" wcf_href="http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=14646wcf_href="http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=14646wcf_href="http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=14646target=_blank>http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=14646

7) Right-click on the "non-MS" Bluetooth driver and choose "Update driver...". Click along in order to get to where you can manually select the driver for your dongle (the "Have disk..." option). Point to the file called "btwusb.inf" on CD or in downladed driver files and update with this driver. Reboot only if necessary. Bluetooth "B" icon in your system tray should be white now - if that is the case, then non-MS Bluetoth is now working on your PC and you're half-way through!
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This is how your Bluetooth icon should look - now you're ready to play! :wink:

Note: The Microsoft Bluetooth icon will always remain visible in the control panel (root directory), but that is no problem!

8 ) Activate Bluetooth on your PC and pair with your headset according to the manual (quite simple but it takes a few steps). Experience shows that it is a good idea not to activate the "audio gateway" profile, but only the "headset" profile. If you know that you need other profiles for e.g. file sharing over BT or other stuff, then do activate those profiles, but keeping it to a minimum will surely minimize the risk of setup errors!

9) Close Skype completely, restart Skype and then choose "Bluetooth Audio" as sound input and output in Skype.

10) Connect your headset from the PC (Right-click on BT icon on the lower right of the screen, choose "Fast connection" > "Headset" and then choose your headset). Receive the incoming call on the headset itself (press "accept call" button when you hear a repeating sound in the headset). If the Bluetooth "B" in the system tray goes green, you're nearly there! Your headset is now in "call" mode so it does consume battery at the highest rate (my Logitech still has power for 6 hours in this state). All audio on your PC now goes through the headset.

11) Make a test call to Skype profile "echo123" and do a test recording.

12) If your hear audio and your own recorded testcall, you're done! CONGRATULATIONS!
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13) If you hear the nice lady, but not your own test call (or just noise), then it is most probably because you do not have the latest Bluetooth driver installed. If you hear nothing at all, check carefully if you did all of the above once again - or you might not have a Bluetooth 1.1 dongle (in that case - bad luck!).

14) Did you download the latest driver from the producer of your dongle? If not, do so and go to step 16. Widcomm 1.4.2.10 does sometimes work fine, but you're better off, if you can get a Widcom 1.4.3 or 3.0.1.xxx driver.

Added note September 2005: Widcomm Bluetooth drivers used to be available from many Blutooth dongle producer's websites, but because a lot of people cross-downloaded drivers from other producers' websites, it is now nearly impossible to find BT drivers on the web which are not locked to the producers own dongles (through MAC address) or in other ways password protected. It is therefore important that you buy the rigt dongle (see step 1) in the first place!

16) When you have found a more recent Blutooth driver then unzip/unpack the files in a re-findable directory (do not run any install.exe or other exe-files in the unzipped folder). Then repeat steps 7 to 12 and you should be up and running!

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With my headset and class 1 dongle, my whole house is covered with a fairly good sound quality (sort of like a cellular phone). Even with 15 meters to the dongle and a 15 cm concrete wall in between, a conversation is by all means possible. What a great addition to Skype!!!

However, DO NOT expect the crisp Skype quality that you are used to using a wired headset - most BT headset users are slightly dissappointed with the sound quality! Sound quality seems to depend a lot on the driver and on the headset.

Only downside - you have to repeat step 10 above (only) before I start using the Bluetooth headset after each reboot of my PC, but I can then use it for any number of consecutive calls (until battery runs out after 6 hours!). Alternatively, you can buy "SkypeHeadset" (www.skypeheadset.co.uk) for 10 GDP / 15 EUR / 20 USD and then your BT headset will connect automatically at each call. I use it and it works well on my PC, despite some driver problems with my Nokia PC Suite...

A tip: Shut down your BT headset using the on/off button on the headset before shutting down you PC - in that way all sound settings are set back to default on your PC instead of all sound getting directed to the BT headset.

I believe that the above procedure will work for most headsets and Bluetooth 1.1 dongles.

If you use my tips and it does not work, please post in this thread in order to get the problem-solving concentrated here. Once your problems solved, please post again to confirm. In that way, we'll get a little smarter every day :wink:

Just wanted to share this great experience!!!
Anders, Denmark
 
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